I do feel like we are getting closer - these have great vibes!
1.) The angle of the hands with stuff coming out of them seems more like receiving, or creating, than giving. I love how in our Giveth swag the hand is clearly ‘handing’ the object even when there isn’t another hand to be receiver.
2.) I think it creates a vapor-y feeling when it’s going up into the air and the character is looking up at the thing springing from their hand. More groundedness would come from it going outward instead of upward, if that makes sense.
3.) The angle of the character in the first set is more appealing, I like the feel of the robot fish lady looking AT me instead of amazed by their own gift to the world. If I were to use a PFP of me, I want it to help me connect with who is looking at me.
Hey @santigs ! I see your second proposal on the GIVgarden requesting funds for the PFP collection. Can you please leave a bit of an explanation here for the amount your requesting and specifically what the funds will be used for?
Sure.
If you check the initial proposal I was requesting 15K xDai for almost all the work, I was not a Giveth contributor back then. After I joined the team and had some discussions in the proposal, I reduced the amount only to that being requested by the artist as my management is included in my Giveth contribution. We also decided it was better to focus on the art and have the smart-contract, and minting site apart and start with initial draft designs to get the impressions of the community.
We then reduced the amount to 10K and launched the first phase for half that amount.
Due to Giv’s price decrease, the final amount in the first phase ended up being 3.400 xDai. When I posted the second and final phase proposal I tried to match the 6600 xDai considering the exchange at that specific date.
I plan on supporting development with some tools we can use to create and deploy the smart-contract and minting site.
Chiming in here, I was going through the PFP Giveth project and Im curious to know a bit more about this drop, specially because as many of you know trends happening around Web3 change very fast, and launching PFP collections to raise funds is not a very successful strategy anymore.
Im seeing that the designs are pretty much done, and the collection is almost ready, but as big NFT collections are less and less trendy/engaging in the space, I think this will need a stronger /more solid strategy in order to gain traction.
The use cases I’ve recently seen in the DAO ecosystem regarding PFPs have specific objectives, basically reputation token which unlock benefits/roles.
Ex: DreamDAO Champions need to have a Skywalker Z to make this role official, and actually the floor price is not bad o.66 Eth aprox.
DoinGud is launching an NFT collection which grant membership access to other DAOs, with different tiers…
As you can see these have a clear use/strategy behind, Giveth has already reputation tokens, but I think theres a lot of creativity we can put behind this collection.
Maybe this strategy is already in place and I didnt found it , could share any strategy resource available @santigs ?
A low hanging fruit would be to revive the idea of GIVbonds.
Users can buy the PFP and with it comes a GIVstream equal to less than what they paid for the PFP.
i.e Givers can buy the PFP for 200 DAI - When they buy it we assign them a GIVstream for 100 DAI worth of GIV at spot price.
These people effectively become incentivized to hodl, potentially gaining more than they paid as the price of GIV matures, unlocking slowly with the GIVstream, and they get a sweet PFP to boot!
Giveth gains a fat cut of instant profit on each sale and offers a long-term speculation opportunity along with potential resale value to first buyers.
Yeah, that’s a great economic incentive . Wondering if we could add some social value as well?
Maybe holders can earn a Giveth role that grant access to some special Discord channel (W other holders/opportunities). Maybe can be a $nice Discord channel and plus the GIVstream idea holders could get some $nice that can be use for Giveth swag.
Open for a further brainstorm around adding some social utility, a lot of NFT collection use cases are tied to social capital, - which could trigger and promote other DAO features as $nice, swag / community building
I agree we have to use the Giveth ecosystem to find out and implement creative ways to integrate the PFP collection adding utility on top of the intrinsic value of the art. The purpose of the proposal is to have the art ready and open the discussion on ways to drop and add utility to get the most out of the collection.
It would be nice to have some brainstorming @OyeAlmond, maybe we can start to have some initial discussions in the coming weeks once the art starts getting ready.
@mitch@OyeAlmond@santigs the strategy I’ve heard working well recently, means doing a free NFT mint first (open to all) and then using that as a filter to qualify for the drop of the other paid mint which as Almond suggested (and i totally agree with ) comes with real utility/ benefit.
@Griff the pooly mint was amazing and I think we can learn from it. I think it did so well because it was beyond an NFT and it was about a cause. Pool together was getting sued (big guys trying to shut it down, saying it was a lottery and should be regulated) so PT called on the community to come together and help defend defi - to fight the good fight and stand up against the big guys by buying an NFT that would help with their legal fees in court.
Let’s put our heads together to think what the proper positioning and utility for this NFT can be?
After these round of comments, I hear we have no strategy for the drop. Agree is elemental to put this in place asap (as it’s a long process that needs the team consensus) .
Brainstorm summary to trigger the strategy creation:
needs further discuss
GIVstream included equal to less of the cost for each NFT
Unblocking exclusive Giveth Discrod role
$nice included for Giveth swag
allowlist Implementation
@tropicalmango is right, to tie all the benefits/utility we need to build a strong story that motivates the sell (in benefit of Giveth.) @santigs would be good to start weekly session with the community team @WhyldWanderer - as the most keen working group regarding community motivations.
@mitch and I were thinking that it would be cool to have the NFT drop in December as it frames the story telling we’re missing:
· Celebration of the 1 year of GIV airdrop!!! - GIVeconomy turns 1 year.
· Christmas time! This is the month to give, so we could market the sell: Buy a GIVer and giveback in the giving month. GIV GIV giveee time
Adding to the utility/benefits brainstorm that strengths the narrative :
· One part of the sell could go to the Giveth matching pool (so ppl will not only be supporting Giveth, but also projects).
Smth like this:
GIVeconomy turns one year and we need your support to keep building the future of giving, we’re having a PFP drop that will not only help Giveth, but also Giveth projects through the Giveth matching pool. With your purchase you will get:
As some of you know, we have started to create the design of “The Givers” PFP collection as a way to engage with the Giveth audience. Designs have been created after the community chose a human, solarpunk character and provided lots of ideas for backgrounds and items.
As the design of the collection is progressing, myself, @OyeAlmond and @tropicalmango have started to meet regularly to discuss everything related to the launch of the collection and these are some of the initial ideas we have reached consensus on.
In the first meeting, together with other members, we’ve decided to drop the collection on Christmas Day as a way to match the date we had the GIV airdrop a year ago. Initial period for the whitelist should be just a few hours before public minting.
We reached consensus on the following collection details. Please feel free to comment, your feedback is very valuable to us:
Collection details
NFT collection will be sold on mainnet to reach a broad audience, and to have the possibility of a secondary market.
GIVpower - PFP collection narrative will be around GIVpower. To support this launch, the holders will receive x% of GIVpower (as the main attraction).
$NICE
The holders will receive x% of $NICE. The collection will help promote $NICE, and reinforce that for xxx amount they could buy swag.
Discord role
Holder will have access to an exclusive Discord channel. We would love the community giving some ideas around what can be provided in this special channel.
What’s next
We need to create the minting page with whitelisting capabilities using Opensea metadata standard so NFTs automatically appear in Opensea once they are minted and anyone can participate in the secondary market.
We also need a way to implement the GIVpower multiplier and an easy way to identify owners with a bot to give them the discord role.
We need suggestions from the development team as per the smart contracts and design of the improvements to the dApp to include the PFP drop page as this is a key part of “feeling part of the community”.
So as you can see there is a lot of dev work we need guidance around. Will be great if we can get some guidance around the viability of this utility, especially having in mind this collection is meant to be launched in Dec 2022. It would be great to get feedback from @amin@MoeNick@markop and @Cori as well as any other members.
) comes with real utility/ benefit.
needs further discuss
This is the month to give, so we could market the sell: Buy a GIVer and giveback in the giving month. GIV GIV giveee time 
